Worth Your Weight

August 28, 2008

LOLfat 3

Filed under: fat acceptance — worthyourweight @ 8:06 pm

Caption adapted from a line in The Women.

Image from an “obesity” epipanic article here.

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  1. Okay, I don’t want to draw a nasty line here between thin and fat because I hate these kinds of pics in general(they’re dehumanizing for everybody), but seriously…all these women look perfectly fine to me. Is this what gets counted as “obese” today? Technically then, everybody but Hollywood is fat. *rolls eyes*

    Comment by dollyann — August 28, 2008 @ 9:48 pm

  2. I was pretty shocked myself, dollyann. Sadly, I don’t think the Sydney Morning Herald is alone in thinking those three women are representative of the obesity!epidemic!

    Comment by worthyourweight — August 28, 2008 @ 10:47 pm

  3. I think the people going around saying, “you’re not even fat! you’re nowhere near obese!” are just worsening the problem. It’s like saying, you aren’t the worst thing you can be! You still have something to hold on to there! There’s hope! It’s insulting to people who are truly very fat and actually “medically obese.”

    Comment by Jasmine — August 29, 2008 @ 12:08 am

  4. I’m looking at this photo, and the women in question look of normal weight to me.

    Comment by Sarah — August 29, 2008 @ 1:47 am

  5. All of those women are probably medically obese. The cutoff is a BMI of 30. That’s 180 pounds at 5′-5″. I look kind of like the woman on the right, and I’ve been involved in size acceptance for 15 years, and have gotten harassed about my weight by my doctor since I was a kid. At a 34 BMI today, I still get a lot of “you’re not really fat!” from other people in SA. Check out Kate Harding’s BMI project if you want to see what many “obese” people look like. I’m on the Flickr set.

    Comment by deeleigh — August 29, 2008 @ 6:15 am

  6. And, Jasmine- It’s not just insulting to people who *look* fatter, it’s a basic misunderstanding of what they mean when they say “obese” on the news. “Obese” is a height/weight ratio. It has nothing to do with whether or not someone has a big belly, a solid, evenly proportioned body with a bit of fat everywhere, or lots of muscle. 30% of Americans are obese and another 30% are overweight. Those are high percentages. You know why they’re high? Because everyone who has a larger than average build, whether of not they’re at all fat, is classified as as overweight. Some people who are classified as “obese” are just very muscular. Many more of us combine a large build with a good bit of chub. We look pretty normal and we’re not all that big, but it’s enough to put us over a BMI of 30.

    Comment by deeleigh — August 29, 2008 @ 6:27 am

  7. They look normal to me, too.

    Comment by Lillian Mitchell — August 29, 2008 @ 9:42 am

  8. Jasmine, as much as I agree with you, this particular LOLfat points out another problem: women who really AREN’T fat, are NOWHERE NEAR obese, and are being CALLED fat and obese because of the insanity caused by the fake obesity epidemic.

    It’s getting to the point where anybody above a size 2 is getting called fat and/or obese, and THAT’S where the problem really lies. Most people don’t even know what an “obese” person REALLY looks like.

    Comment by nuckingfutz — August 29, 2008 @ 10:56 am

  9. @Jasmine: Absolutely agreed! It also reinforces the notion of fat being something bad, instead of a neutral physical characteristic. It also usually means “you’re not sloppy-looking,” “you ‘look healthy’,” “you’re pretty (and fat people aren’t)”–people can conveniently keep their negative stereotypes of fat people by insisting that anyone who doesn’t fit the stereotype is “not really fat.”

    There’s also the fact that by “you don’t look obese,” people usually mean “you aren’t 500+ lbs like those people I see in news articles.” I’m obese and I wear size 14-18. If people are going to insist on making sweeping generalizations about health and obesity, they’d better use the right definition and not just “you don’t look obese.”

    Comment by goodbyemyboy — August 29, 2008 @ 11:38 am

  10. Excellent discussion. I really appreciate it.

    You know, when I found that pic, I hesitated whether to use it because, yeah, those women look normal and pretty to me. Then I realized that’s one of the points I’m trying to make with the LOLfats. This picture was the only one accompanying the obesity hysteria scare tactic article. That’s scary in a way the news site didn’t intend.

    Comment by worthyourweight — August 29, 2008 @ 1:03 pm

  11. Yur Pikshur iz not showwen up!!! I wanna read the capshun!

    Comment by downcastmysoul — August 29, 2008 @ 1:31 pm

  12. OK I sees it now! Really, these ass-shats will have to deal with the fact that fat people exist!!! It’s not as if everyone was bone thin years and years ago… I once saw a pair of pants that were a double 00, I looked and looked…I mean, who could wear those outside of a midget or grade school girl?

    Comment by downcastmysoul — August 29, 2008 @ 2:27 pm

  13. Glad the pic is showing up now. You’re right. I believe size 00 *is* the size of pants for like an 8-year-old.

    Comment by worthyourweight — August 29, 2008 @ 4:41 pm

  14. It reminded me of the old 5-7-9 shops of my youth. LOL

    Comment by downcastmysoul — August 29, 2008 @ 4:52 pm

  15. WYW if you remember, it was very recently that the press reported (there’s a piece on it at JFS) that their former method (of showing giant headless torsos) had backfired, because people who are just regular-sized, like those women who are just a little chunky in the picture, were NOT GETTING SCARED ABOUT BEING FAT. They realized that they’d made a major boo-boo because MOST people don’t look like the giant headless torsos they were putting up, most people look more like the women in the picture. And they were not getting scared. Seriously, the press was very upset about this, because even being a little bit fat is just as bad as being 600 pounds, so they were wondering how they could scare the people who were just average. The result is predictable – they’re showing people who are just a little fat now so that they’ll get scared too.

    I believe BFB reported on that too – if so, you should probably go find it and link to your post here. I think Paul will be interested to know that they took their own advice on the epi-panic.

    Comment by anniemcphee — August 29, 2008 @ 5:43 pm

  16. downcastmysoul,
    Those shops were the bane of my youth. Even had snotty girls in Rave say loudly so I could hear, “I didn’t know they sold BIG girl sizes here.” I think 5-7-9 is the plus size branch now of store 1-2-3.

    Oooh, I had forgotten that! Thanks for pointing that out.

    [ETA: I looked for the BFB link, but no dice. Sorry.]

    Comment by worthyourweight — August 29, 2008 @ 5:57 pm

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  18. WYW,

    I never shopped at 5-7-9, but at other jr. dept stores until I grew out of jr sizes altogether. I went straight from girl sizes to a 9, I grew up and out so fast! I was the size of a woman in 7th grade. Jad big feet, too. The jr pants never ever fit. To get the hips to fit I needed a gap of like a foot in the waist. The utter worst part was having my mother along, though! She hated I was curvy since she was almost anorexic until she was like, 40. I wore a “C” bra in high school. Now that the “sizes” are bigger I would’ve probably squeezed into a 5 or a 7 but I was born too soon…LOL.

    I find, unfortunately, now, that the rudest people work in large size stores that I’ve been to, but, I’ve only been to places like Lane Bryant and Fashion Bug Plus, etc. I just usually shop the plus size side at the discount store for now.

    Comment by downcastmysoul — August 29, 2008 @ 9:41 pm

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